Are solvers killing the art of poker
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Hey guys! Let’s dive into this—are solvers taking the heart out of poker? No doubt they’ve raised the level of strategy, but it feels like the game’s becoming more mechanical. It’s all about following charts these days, with players relying more on data than their instincts. What’s your take on this?
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I see your point, but solvers are just tools. They don’t play the game for you—they teach you the best baseline. The real art is knowing when to deviate. If you’re blindly following solver outputs, you’re beatable. The edge comes from balancing GTO with exploiting your opponents.
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Exactly. Solvers aren’t killing the art
they’re raising the bar. Back in the day, people thought intuition was everything. Now we’ve got data to back up good decisions. If anything, it’s making poker even deeper. But yeah, the guys who just regurgitate GTO ranges without reading the table? Easy pickings
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I’ll admit, I hate how solver-heavy online games have become
. Everyone’s running like six HUDs and memorizing ranges 
. In live poker, though, it’s a whole different game you can’t rely on a solver to read someone’s body language or catch a tell 
. That’s where the art of poker still thrives 
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Fair, but doesn’t it feel like live players are at a disadvantage now? The solver grinders who jump into live games already have their ranges down cold. Meanwhile, live players are still making “feel” plays that get crushed against optimal strategies
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True, but live games are softer because most people don’t care about GTO
️. They’re just there to gamble, have fun 
, and play hands they “like” 🤪. That’s where exploitative play shines 
. If you know GTO and how to exploit those deviations, you’re basically printing money 
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But don’t you miss the old days? When poker was about personality—making crazy bluffs, trapping with monsters, tilting people into oblivion? Feels like solvers have made everything too sterile
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Toggle Quote On 1/23/2025 at 10:12 AM, Delgado said:
Hey guys! Let’s dive into this—are solvers taking the heart out of poker? No doubt they’ve raised the level of strategy, but it feels like the game’s becoming more mechanical. It’s all about following charts these days, with players relying more on data than their instincts. What’s your take on this?
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Yeah, kinda feels like everyone is playing the same now -
Solvers made the game tougher for sure
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Toggle Quote On 4/7/2025 at 4:20 AM, Times flys said:
Solvers made the game tougher for sure
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Toggle Quote On 4/7/2025 at 4:20 AM, Times flys said:
Solvers made the game tougher for sure
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if u are not learn solver lines u will lose -
Yes, that’s just where the game is now.
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Toggle Quote On 1/23/2025 at 10:12 AM, Delgado said:
Hey guys! Let’s dive into this—are solvers taking the heart out of poker? No doubt they’ve raised the level of strategy, but it feels like the game’s becoming more mechanical. It’s all about following charts these days, with players relying more on data than their instincts. What’s your take on this?
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Yeah, kinda feels like the soul s gone
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Toggle Quote On 4/7/2025 at 4:20 AM, Times flys said:
Solvers made the game tougher for sure
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they just made it less random
use solvers, sure, but they crush because they know how to read people 
, and dominate the meta 
. That’s the real art of the game 
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